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04. 09 2008

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[02:31:32] <hads> Django was released.
[02:32:46] <dennda> JESUS
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[04:22:58] <davidcramer> Was there a usable alternative to filter capture in jinja2?
[04:23:04] <davidcramer> or will i be forced to use a macro
[04:23:13] <davidcramer> e.g. pagination i want to show up twice, but generate once
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[08:15:52] <james_027> hi all... i try to do sphinx-build -b d:/docs d:/html , but it says conf.py was not found but I have conf.py inside d:/docs
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[11:04:56] <asmodai> http://www.joshuathejames.com/Posting/SkeletorTdome8theJames.jpg
[11:05:00] <asmodai> fear Skeletor
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[11:26:14] <asmodai> any of you have or know where to find zsh python setup.py completion?
[11:26:23] <asmodai> before I start writing
[11:27:01] <maze> asmodai, let me know if you find something :)
[11:27:22] <asmodai> maze: nothing thus far, so I guess I'll hack one up myself
[12:12:50] <dennda> anybody having a zine/textpress configuration example for apache with fastcgi?
[12:16:42] <dennda> apollo13 perhaps? friend of mine has troubles compiling mod_wsgi and wants to try with fastcgi first
[12:16:54] <apollo13> hu?
[12:17:06] <dennda> apollo13: see the question above
[12:17:09] <apollo13> where is the problem with mod_wsgi compilation?
[12:17:22] <dennda> apollo13: That he has a strange setup with kolab
[12:18:18] <apollo13> that: http://www.kolab.org/?
[12:19:19] <apollo13> btw zine ships with a fcgi config
[12:19:28] <dennda> think so
[12:19:45] <dennda> yes I know. the apache part is what I have never done before
[12:20:23] <apollo13> na, I never did fcgi (besides with lighty textdrive)
[12:20:47] <apollo13> but there are more than one apache modules
[12:21:07] <dennda> apollo13: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/JNvhdgSSTt3jPDQtBaKf/
[12:23:06] <apollo13> dennda: I'll try to compile it here
[12:23:25] <dennda> apollo13: I had no problems myself. dunno what's wrong there
[12:25:03] <apollo13> dennda: what kind of machine is that?
[12:25:39] <dennda> some rootserver running a 32 bit os
[12:25:50] <dennda> what do you want to know precisely?
[12:25:59] <apollo13> which os, not ibm aix?
[12:26:04] <dennda> hardy
[12:26:10] <apollo13> ah ok
[12:26:21] <apollo13> dev headers are all installed I assume
[12:26:27] <dennda> python-dev yes
[12:26:29] <apollo13> otherwise he wouldn't be able to run configure
[12:26:33] <apollo13> apache dev too?
[12:26:43] <dennda> checking
[12:27:54] <dennda> apollo13: which package precisely? apache-dev? apache2-threaded-dev? I assume apache2-dev?
[12:28:03] <apollo13> um
[12:28:14] <apollo13> depends on the apache variation he installed
[12:28:23] <apollo13> if it's worker use threaded
[12:28:29] <dennda> no it's prefork
[12:29:08] <apollo13> then it's the apache2-prefork-dev
[12:30:12] <dennda> ah has another name on debian %-)
[12:30:17] <dennda> that is needed I suppose?
[12:30:27] <apollo13> I thought it's hardy?
[12:30:36] <dennda> yeah but I was accidentially checking on etch
[12:30:41] <apollo13> ah
[12:30:45] <dennda> now on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:30:50] <apollo13> yeah it's called exactly what I told you
[12:30:56] <dennda> yes, seen it
[12:31:00] <dennda> anything else needed?
[12:31:13] <apollo13> don't think so
[12:32:35] <apollo13> but that's an odd setup after all
[12:32:58] <dennda> indeed
[12:33:22] <apollo13> no normal install will install apache under /kolab
[12:33:54] <dennda> yes they are sharing their server or something
[12:34:05] <dennda> I am quite a bit happy not to have that pain myself
[12:34:24] <apollo13> but he has control over his apache instance?
[12:35:17] <dennda> why do you think so?
[12:35:22] <apollo13> dunno
[12:35:31] <apollo13> if not install dev packages won't help
[12:35:42] <apollo13> if he can't run the hardy apache but the kolab one
[12:36:20] <dennda> well I think he purposly put that thing under /kolab
[12:36:33] <apollo13> yeah but look at the includes
[12:36:55] <apollo13> it's using the apache stuff from there
[12:36:59] <apollo13> not good imho
[12:37:06] <apollo13> anyways getting myself something to eat
[12:39:40] <dennda> yah indeed that's what I just realized
[12:39:57] <dennda> if he installs the -dev package, the whole apache from hardys repositories is installed
[12:40:06] <dennda> ugly ugly
[12:40:27] <dennda> ok so sticking to fastcgi X-)
[12:48:02] <davidcramer> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/16261631/ref
[12:48:06] <davidcramer> do you think they know about hulu.com
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[13:31:41] <asmodai> mm
[13:31:51] <asmodai> Americans in general make good spin doctors
[13:32:05] <asmodai> <company> delivers technology-based tools and a suite of professional services to help companies across industries to dramatically improve their Governance, Risk, and Compliance Management practices and drive organizational performance.
[13:32:28] <asmodai> Me? I'd just say something like: we like cookies
[13:32:49] <plaes> cd
[13:32:52] <plaes> doh
[13:32:57] <asmodai> no such file or directory
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[14:31:27] <asmodai> http://www.weightless.io/weightless
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[14:54:51] <_paneb> is it possible to have email addresses in the URL and extract them using the Routing system?
[14:56:52] <apollo13> _paneb: what's a email adress different from a text match?
[14:56:57] <apollo13> string*
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[14:57:54] <_paneb> right, not much. i thought about the @ but i guess it's not problem
[15:26:37] <apollo13> aati: chatting as root?
[15:27:02] <ronny> hmm
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[15:27:45] <ronny> i think last time i saw the correct email regex it spannned something like 3 A4 pages
[15:27:58] <asmodai> joining IRC as root is a kick/ban on my #freebsd channel
[15:28:16] <apollo13> ronny: That's the short one
[15:28:36] <ronny> apollo13: how long was the long one?
[15:28:47] <apollo13> give me a second
[15:32:47] <apollo13> ronny: to be percicse I even think you can't validate a email via regex
[15:33:52] <ronny> yeah, insane shit
[15:34:00] <apollo13> and can't find the exmample right now
[15:34:11] <apollo13> but the 3 pages were using extended regexes I think
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[15:42:12] <apollo13> lol http://haacked.com/archive/2007/08/21/i-knew-how-to-validate-an-email-address-until-i.aspx
[15:48:10] <maze> using regexp to validate e-mail is overrated
[15:48:25] <maze> for the hostname part, I rather use DNS
[15:51:52] <apollo13> maze: I prefer sending emails ;)
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[15:52:27] <maze> apollo13, ah you're one of those customers who fill the ISP MTA's with bounces, great :p
[15:52:59] <apollo13> maze: for registration processes yes, cause I need an activation link, otherwise someone else could enter your email adress
[15:53:33] <maze> I think e-mail correctness verification is part of your regular input-validation process, but OK
[15:54:20] <apollo13> maze: a) you can't validate correctnes of emails via regular expressions, basta. b) that won't tell me if it's your adress
[15:54:57] <maze> apollo13, a) ack b) that's why you send an activation email after checking for MX records on the given domain for example
[15:55:32] <apollo13> maze: yeah, that's what we are doing anyways ;)
[15:56:13] <maze> good :)
[15:56:23] <apollo13> at least last time I checked
[15:56:45] <apollo13> ah no I think we disabled it, as many users complained, that they don't get mails
[15:56:52] <apollo13> dyndns and some other shit :/
[15:57:23] <maze> http://thefrozenfire.com/data/emailregex.txt
[15:57:55] <maze> I used to use + as a recipient delimiter, but thanks to the tons of retarded developers I could hardly use these addresses
[15:58:04] <maze> now I switched to -, but still 50% lacks proper implementation
[15:58:12] <apollo13> ^^
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[17:01:45] <prencher> apollo13 - taking a differnet approach on my new site.. no email required, but it'll be needed if you actually want to reset password or receive notifications et al
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[17:02:05] <prencher> time will tell if it hinders enough malicious users, but so far it's been working out just fine
[17:02:50] <prencher> when it comes down to it, an email address doesn't really gate against anything, it's not hard to get a phony email - mailinator and so on
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[19:03:43] <prencher^> where's mitsuhiko dissappeared off to this time?
[19:04:25] <dennda> greece
[19:05:47] <prencher^> wheres the dude get all that money from
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[19:05:56] <dennda> dunno
[19:06:06] <dennda> microsoft I suppose
[19:06:07] <dennda> :D
[19:06:17] <prencher> no no no
[19:06:27] <prencher> he pitches mono at python devs
[19:06:35] <prencher> so clearly its microsoft proxying through novell
[19:06:50] <xorAxAx> i am sure he got loads of perks from plurk :)
[19:07:00] <prencher> what the hell is plurk anyway
[19:07:02] <dennda> perks from plurk?
[19:07:07] <dennda> I didn't get that either
[19:07:17] <dennda> way to web2.0ish for my tiny little mind
[19:07:24] <xorAxAx> yeah, i havent heard plurk neither
[19:08:21] <prencher> i looked at hte site a couple times
[19:08:24] <prencher> and i still dont have a clue
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[20:05:49] <Kaelten> xorAxAx: plurk?
[20:06:44] <Kaelten> lol plurk.com's job titles are awesome
[20:06:48] <Kaelten> "L33T Systems H@x0R, Optimizer & Log Lord
[20:08:30] <plaes> hrm.. I got sacked today :*
[20:08:36] <Kaelten> ?
[20:09:11] <plaes> well, we were maintaining some picture hosting site and owners decided to pull the plug...
[20:10:52] <Kaelten> ouch
[20:10:53] <Kaelten> that sucks
[20:11:38] <plaes> well, IMHO, never ever outsource the sysadmin and main programmer :)
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[20:20:31] <prencher> their translation of plurk.com is just amazingly well done
[20:20:37] <prencher> for example, buttons and tooltips aren't translated
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[21:47:13] <asmodai> plaes: sorry to hear
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