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05. 09 2008

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[10:48:39] <asmodai> ok
[10:48:40] <asmodai> this is odd
[10:48:43] <asmodai> http://rgruet.free.fr/PQR25/PQR2.5.html
[10:48:47] <asmodai> trying to print it
[10:48:54] <asmodai> but it keeps getting broken off after the 3rd page
[10:48:59] <asmodai> Opera, Firefox... no difference
[10:50:57] <asmodai> oh well, *prints PDF*
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[11:47:07] <asmodai> is there any way to gain access to a parent function/method's variables?
[11:50:10] <luks> only by inspecting the stack, I guess
[11:50:19] <asmodai> taht or globals() perhaps
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[11:52:20] <asmodai> mmm
[11:58:59] <asmodai> http://www.peopleintomusic.com/
[12:13:32] <asmodai> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7598549.stm
[12:13:53] <asmodai> Musical tastes and personality type are closely related, according to a study of more than 36,000 people from around the world.
[12:13:57] <asmodai> It suggested classical music fans were shy, while heavy metal aficionados were gentle and at ease with themselves.
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[13:49:22] * asmodai waves bye bye to bsddb in Python 3.0
[13:50:34] <apollo13> got my freerunner :)
[13:50:54] <apollo13> just wanted all of you to know ;)
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[14:06:23] <asmodai> apollo13: heh
[14:06:28] <asmodai> apollo13: good luck making calls
[14:07:57] <apollo13> zhone is quite stable
[14:13:24] <asmodai> :)
[14:13:36] <asmodai> I wonder, does it come preconfigured with input methods?
[14:22:04] <apollo13> depends
[14:22:18] <apollo13> the version on my openmoko seems to be the non qt one
[14:22:39] <apollo13> the input method there is kinda useless (normal mobile multitap :/)
[14:23:30] <maze> the best thing about 'qt' is that you can pronounce it as 'cunt'
[14:24:04] <apollo13> :)
[14:24:40] <asmodai> maze: not in my language
[14:24:56] <luks> it's supposed to be 'cute'
[14:24:57] <maze> asmodai, in Dutch you can proounce it as 'kut'
[14:25:15] * asmodai must be having a different pronunciation :P
[14:25:28] <asmodai> because it would be kuut
[14:25:46] <maze> there's no U in there
[14:26:00] <asmodai> q = kuu
[14:26:29] <asmodai> Or I wonder how you pronounce the q in Dutch :D
[14:27:50] <maze> kùh
[14:28:01] <maze> depends on the context really
[14:28:32] <asmodai> heh
[14:28:39] <asmodai> I'd say kuut, but hey
[14:28:47] <asmodai> I have a rolling r too
[14:28:53] <asmodai> and a strong g
[14:28:59] <asmodai> yay Rotterdam
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[14:29:48] <maze> I'm from Leiden myself, but I usually speak reasonable ABN
[14:30:19] <leche> am i right here if i got some problems bringing zine to work with fastcfi?
[14:31:29] <asmodai> leche: sure
[14:31:36] <asmodai> just taht Armin's on holiday
[14:31:46] <leche> yeah, i know, dennda told me
[14:31:52] <apollo13> leche: use mod_wsgi *runs*
[14:32:03] <asmodai> I still need to upgrade my textpress to zine
[14:32:17] <leche> apollo13: cant use mod_wsgi, cause theres no openpkg for it
[14:32:26] <apollo13> leche: compile it on your own
[14:32:31] <apollo13> it's really easy
[14:32:36] <leche> i tried this
[14:32:41] <apollo13> I do it on my servers too, debian is just to old for it
[14:32:45] <leche> wait, lets see if i find the error log
[14:32:47] <asmodai> maze: well, I speak decent ABN, hardly a Rotterdam accent, just that my pronunciation might be stronger in some cases :)
[14:33:09] <maze> asmodai, right :)
[14:33:13] <leche> apollo13: the problem is, i use an apache that is content of a kolab groupwareserver
[14:33:26] <apollo13> eeks
[14:33:29] <apollo13> that one :/
[14:33:37] <apollo13> I remeber someone asking about it
[14:33:40] <leche> did dennda talk with you?
[14:33:42] <leche> ah ok
[14:33:45] <apollo13> yeah
[14:33:59] <apollo13> where is the problem with fcgi?
[14:34:31] <leche> hmm, wait, will be a longer text i think, maybe my whole infrastructure isnt correct though
[14:35:20] <leche> ok, i installed the fcgi module
[14:35:25] <leche> into apache
[14:35:27] <leche> and it runs
[14:35:36] <leche> if i use apache -M
[14:35:43] <apollo13> fastcgi oder fcgid?
[14:36:32] <leche> fastcgi_module (shared)
[14:36:38] <grumpy> leche: but what was the problem with compiling mod_wsgi on that server?
[14:37:09] <leche> grumpy: it uses openpkg, which is a layer between os and the servers running on it
[14:37:21] <leche> the apache isnt installed directly
[14:37:23] <apollo13> leche: that wasn't the problem
[14:37:28] <apollo13> grumpy: let me find the errlog
[14:37:49] <leche> ok, ill continue with fastcgi
[14:38:03] <leche> as you can see, the virtualenv server runs
[14:38:09] <leche> milk-and-cookies.net:/4000
[14:38:45] <leche> http://milk-and-cookies.net:4000/
[14:39:07] <apollo13> grumpy: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/JNvhdgSSTt3jPDQtBaKf/
[14:39:24] <leche> this directory lays in my homedir ~/zine-leche
[14:40:14] <leche> but i think i did something wrong setting up the apache.conf for fastcgi
[14:40:41] <apollo13> leche: is there some kind of suexec used?
[14:40:54] <leche> apollo13: where?
[14:41:11] <apollo13> in apache
[14:41:21] <leche> wait, ill get the apache.conf rdy for you
[14:41:21] <apollo13> can you run other fcgi scripts?
[14:41:23] <leche> one moment
[14:41:32] <leche> apollo13: i dont know
[14:41:40] <grumpy> leche: Use http://modwsgi.googlecode.com/svn/branches/mod_wsgi-2.X/mod_wsgi.c, there was a #if missing. Was picked up on Windows build.
[14:42:18] <apollo13> grumpy: ah ok, I tested his version and it compiled fine here ;)
[14:42:32] <leche> grumpy: is your link correct?
[14:42:50] <grumpy> Should be, I just cut and paste it from browser.
[14:43:31] <POX_> apollo13: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libapache2-mod-wsgi - there's a backport for Etch
[14:43:46] <leche> grumpy: ok, so i just compile this file and put it in some directory, tell apache that this is there and it will work?
[14:43:54] <apollo13> POX_: it's wasn't there when I started with mod_wsgi...
[14:44:08] <grumpy> Just replace mod_wsgi.c in version 2.3 with that file and compile as before.
[14:44:38] <leche> grumpy: ok, ill try it
[14:45:51] <asmodai> Do or don't, there is no try.
[14:46:13] <apollo13> hehe
[14:48:52] <leche> grumpy: hmm, it seems it compiled now
[14:49:01] <leche> i have a mod_wsgi.o
[14:49:18] <apollo13> leche: make install
[14:49:39] <leche> also worked..
[14:49:52] <leche> or wait
[14:50:11] <leche> yes
[14:50:12] <leche> ok
[14:51:12] <leche> is there any document how to proceed now?
[14:51:37] <apollo13> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/QuickConfigurationGuide
[14:52:22] <leche> thx so far
[14:52:39] <grumpy> apollo13: hey, I only added that 2 seconds ago, you are quick aren't you. :-)
[14:52:59] <apollo13> grumpy: o, I was supprised that it existed, never saw it before ;)
[14:53:15] <apollo13> otherwise I would have linked him to configurationdirectives
[14:53:27] <grumpy> yeah, well only first pass at this point.
[14:53:28] <apollo13> and that's no fun for beginners
[14:53:59] <apollo13> btw I would suggest moving daemonprocesses to the top
[14:54:25] <apollo13> cause embedded is imho not a good idea if you don't know what you are doing
[14:54:37] <leche> btw, you really should do some scripts that just "easy_install zine" is doing the trick
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[14:54:44] <apollo13> (eg if running mod_php and whatever in paralell)
[14:54:50] <leche> that would be really helpfull
[14:55:00] <apollo13> hg clone is that much harder?
[14:55:08] <leche> hmm, no
[14:55:12] <apollo13> ;)
[14:55:27] <apollo13> and linking to into pythonpath of course
[14:55:36] <apollo13> dunno armin kicked setup.py out a month ago or so
[14:55:47] <grumpy> Problem is that daemon mode not available for Windows or Apache 1.3 and that kolab server either by the look of it.
[14:55:57] <grumpy> So, don't want to put stuff at top that doesn't work everywhere.
[14:56:03] <apollo13> I see
[14:56:35] <apollo13> grumpy: btw we might require your knowledge by the time armin comes back
[14:56:43] <apollo13> we are running ubuntuusers.de via fcgi now :/
[14:56:58] <apollo13> we somewhat had a problem with mod_wsgi
[14:57:40] <grumpy> I thought you working out it was cPickle or something.
[14:57:52] <apollo13> well that was it for fcgi
[14:58:04] <apollo13> not quite sure yet, we'll need some test and benchmarks
[14:58:44] <apollo13> but we would prefer mod_wsgi, touch inyoka.wsgi for reloading makes deployment fun :)
[14:59:04] <apollo13> all in al resulting in: fab production deploy and online you go :þ
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[15:02:11] <grumpy> Don't mind helping, all comes done to timing if expect to discuss it on IRC and not often I can get on. Thus you may have to resort to email.
[15:02:39] <_paneb> i don't have to use the Routing system from werkzeug right? i could use Selector just as well, right?
[15:03:11] <apollo13> _paneb: whatever you like yeah
[15:03:34] <apollo13> grumpy: that won't be a problem at all :)
[15:22:51] <asmodai> mmm, seems Spore is turning out to be not so great as people were hyping it
[15:26:45] <grumpy> Snooze time as long as baby agrees. Bye.
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[15:48:10] <asmodai> In a surprise email from Raven Software employee James Monroe, James "Quasar" Haley of Team Eternity has been notified that the source code for Heretic and Hexen has been re-released under the GNU General Public License, and is now available from Sourceforge.
[15:48:14] <asmodai> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=238655
[15:50:55] <prencher> 'bout time they follow id's example
[15:51:19] <prencher> and 3d realms for that matter
[15:52:26] <asmodai> mmm, MySQL founder left Sun it seems
[15:52:52] <prencher> wasn't it him that had that bright idea that they shouldnt opensource it anymore?
[15:53:06] <asmodai> think so
[16:12:13] <_paneb> is there an example somewhere that shows how to achieve "controller dispatching" like that found in pylons? i looked in the examples directory, but i could not find it
[16:17:43] <asmodai> for werkzeug?
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[16:21:28] <_paneb> yes
[16:26:49] <asmodai> mmm
[16:26:53] <asmodai> is this similar:
[16:27:05] <asmodai> Rule('/entry/add', endpoint='dictionary.add'),
[16:27:06] <asmodai> ?
[16:30:02] <prencher> _paneb - if you want something like the default rails setup, e.g. /<controller>/<action>/<int:id>, that'd be very easy to write an endpoint handler for
[16:30:31] <prencher> remmeber you are the one who controls how endpoints are matched; you can do whatever you want
[16:31:08] <prencher> all werkzeug does is match the url and gives you the endpoint and paramters
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[17:41:21] <apollo13> what does the .summary for the gta02 rootfs mean? http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/
[17:41:28] <apollo13> ups wrong one^^
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[18:31:37] <_paneb> is the defaults parameter to Rule() where I can specify the request method? And if i have several methods specified for the same endpoint, i would have to check when dispatching what to do? (to hand GET differently from HEAD or POST)
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[18:59:11] <TheSheep> any news about _get_file_stream in werkzeug?
[19:00:24] <dennda> o/ TheSheep
[19:01:18] <TheSheep> hey dennda
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[21:53:12] <leche> ok
[21:53:19] <leche> dennda: as you wish
[21:53:29] <dennda> :-)
[21:53:35] <leche> http://rafb.net/p/EMoEzb80.html
[21:53:45] <leche> heres the subject ...
[21:53:57] <dennda> Can you post what you already discussed with tux21b?
[21:54:04] <leche> here?
[21:54:21] <dennda> No in your query, on a pastebin preferably
[21:54:22] <tux21b> leche, if you want, you can do that, but its a bit of work and you should check before, if blog.mysite.de gets resolved to your server too (otherwise you must edit your dns entries)
[21:54:32] <leche> http://rafb.net/p/OhAcyr89.html
[21:54:52] <leche> tux21b: i got * forwarded to my ip
[21:55:05] <tux21b> ok, than you can do that ;)
[21:56:05] <leche> the actual point is, should i take all that kolab entries and put them into another file with an own virtual host?
[21:56:32] <tux21b> leche, if you want you can do that, but for running zine it isn't required. wait a moment pls
[21:56:54] <dennda> leche: BTW in zine you can define your /admin url
[21:57:03] <leche> dennda: ok
[21:57:33] <leche> what confuses me most are that <Location> entries, what are they good for?
[21:57:40] <dennda> There's some option in the admin interface for that
[21:59:16] <tux21b> dennda, that should be enough to host zine on */zine/ http://paste.pocoo.org/show/84482/
[21:59:23] <tux21b> s/dennda/leche
[22:00:25] <tux21b> you can change /zine/ to / too, if you don't want the the /zine/ prefix and you can put that in an extra vhost like blog.mysite.de too if you want to have it only on that domain
[22:01:08] <leche> ok, wait, ill try first if that works
[22:01:25] <leche> how must my <Location "/"> be then?
[22:01:30] <tux21b> (and if you delete all lines expect the WsgiScriptAlias, than mod_wsgi will use embedded mode. it's a bit faster but the apache gets bigger and shouldn't be used for anything else)
[22:01:31] <leche> and what are they good for?
[22:01:48] <leche> ok, ill take the process one
[22:02:57] <tux21b> there is no <location ...> directive in my example. you can either use <location > if you want to match against a querystring path or <directory > if you want to match against a filesystem path
[22:02:58] <leche> Invalid command 'WSGIDaemonProcess', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[22:03:29] <leche> tux21b: no i meant that location entrys that allrdy exist in my conf
[22:03:53] <dennda> I recommend first trying embedded mode. Somebody suggested earlier that Daemon mode may cause problems with kolab
[22:03:57] <dennda> but maybe I got that wrong
[22:04:05] <tux21b> check if mod_wsgi is loaded. the line is something like this: LoadModule wsgi_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_wsgi.so (check the path on your own)
[22:04:23] <dennda> leche: is mod_wsgi enabled? a2enmod mod_wsgi
[22:04:54] <leche> apache -M shows it
[22:04:56] <leche> so i think
[22:05:07] <dennda> check it :-)
[22:06:41] <tux21b> dennda, but i think he wont have the scripts and directories like a2enmod and so on. it's debian specific, isn't it?
[22:07:04] <dennda> is it? don't know. never administered a non-debian apache
[22:07:17] <tux21b> i think so...
[22:07:46] <tux21b> dennda, normally there is only a httpd.conf and nothing else (no sites-enabled/mods-enabled/etc)
[22:08:08] <leche> wsgi_module (shared)
[22:08:11] <leche> apache -m
[22:08:13] <leche> apache -M
[22:08:14] <leche> ..
[22:08:16] <leche> says this
[22:09:34] <leche> btw, what is the correct path to the zine lib?
[22:09:47] <leche> in my zine.wcgi?
[22:10:38] <tux21b> the path to the root of your hg checkout
[22:10:38] <leche> wsgi i mean..
[22:10:46] <leche> ok
[22:11:34] <leche> so, now i should reach the blog with my.domain.net/zine?
[22:12:02] <dennda> if everything is set up correctly and you restarted your apache, yes
[22:12:18] <leche> "if everything is set up correctly"
[22:12:20] <leche> ;-)
[22:12:35] <dennda> well it was a catchy question and I evaded it nicely, don't you think?
[22:12:36] <dennda> :-)
[22:12:38] <TheSheep> isn't it .wsgi? :)
[22:12:51] <TheSheep> instead of .wcgi
[22:12:54] <leche> TheSheep: <leche> wsgi i mean.
[22:15:01] <leche> http://milk-and-cookies.net/zine
[22:15:07] <leche> as you can see here ;-)
[22:15:32] <leche> i trying embedded mode atm
[22:15:42] <dennda> looks like bad setup
[22:15:44] <ronny> yo
[22:15:54] <ronny> hmm
[22:15:55] <dennda> yo ronny
[22:16:02] <ronny> im still on textpress ;P
[22:16:06] <tux21b> leche, wait a bit. do you get a message on the apache startup or is there anything in the error.log?
[22:16:06] <leche> hmm, nothing special in errorlog..
[22:16:07] <dennda> ronny: upgrade, then
[22:16:26] <leche> tux21b: no errors at apache restart
[22:16:31] <leche> nothing in the log
[22:16:44] <dennda> your whole page is down
[22:16:53] <leche> yay ^^
[22:17:07] <leche> i did it
[22:17:19] <tux21b> leche, but the apache isn't running atm. so it failed to start
[22:17:26] <leche> hm
[22:17:48] <leche> milk@korova:/kolab/bin$ sudo ./openpkg rc apache restart
[22:17:49] <leche> OpenPKG: restart: apache.
[22:18:00] <dennda> is it running?
[22:18:16] <tux21b> now it is
[22:18:18] <leche> doesnt look like
[22:18:23] <dennda> Not Found
[22:18:23] <_paneb> when i create a custom request object using mixins as shown at http://werkzeug.pocoo.org/documentation/wrappers, do i have to manually put it in the WSGI environ?
[22:18:24] <dennda> The requested URL /zine was not found on this server.
[22:18:40] <leche> running
[22:18:48] <dennda> hu, mod_wsgi 2.4?
[22:18:51] <leche> horde works
[22:18:54] <tux21b> leche, and now look at the errorlog :)
[22:19:21] <leche> [Fri Sep 05 22:18:57 2008] [error] [client 92.73.92.209] File does not exist: /kolab/var/kolab/www/zine
[22:19:21] <leche> [Fri Sep 05 22:18:58 2008] [error] [client 92.73.92.209] Directory index forbidden by Options directive: /kolab/var/kolab/www/
[22:19:27] <leche> yeah
[22:19:27] <ronny> how is the ini file called ?
[22:19:34] <dennda> ronny: zine.ini
[22:19:42] <ronny> any other changes needed ?
[22:19:51] <ronny> (it still starts the websetup
[22:19:58] <dennda> ronny: yah take a look at the ini file itself
[22:20:06] <dennda> there is [Textpress] in it or something like that
[22:20:13] <dennda> I migrated myself the other day
[22:21:20] <tux21b> leche, and no other errors? and can you post your config again?
[22:21:34] <dennda> that looks like a borked conf
[22:21:42] <dennda> as in "bad path/url setup"
[22:21:52] <leche> tux21b: its just WSGIScriptAlias /zine/ /home/milk/zine_instances/zine.wsgi
[22:21:56] <dennda> maybe just move the WSGIScriptAlias to the top for testing
[22:21:57] <leche> nothing else changed
[22:22:11] <ronny> hmm
[22:22:15] <ronny> stuff works fine again
[22:22:17] <ronny> thanks
[22:22:42] <leche> but why he looks in ...www/zine?
[22:22:56] <dennda> leche: can you post the whole config again?
[22:23:06] <tux21b> leche, try WSGIScriptAlias /zine /home/..../zine.wsig
[22:23:27] <leche> tux21b: it is
[22:23:40] <leche> or, you mean without / at zine?
[22:23:57] <tux21b> yes, try that please. i am not sure if that is important ;)
[22:24:15] <leche> ok, not found
[22:24:25] <dennda> gief config
[22:24:35] <dennda> urgh thunderstorm
[22:24:35] <dennda> sucky
[22:25:07] <leche> dennda: nothing else changed, and i have to scp to my desktop, whipe out all that passwords for kolab...
[22:25:14] <leche> its the same, just with that line more
[22:25:23] <dennda> where did you put that line?
[22:26:11] <leche> below the </Directory> of this <Directory "/kolab/var/kolab/www/admin"> definition
[22:27:11] <dennda> put it to 118
[22:27:18] <dennda> wild guess, though
[22:28:05] <leche> nothing changed
[22:28:12] <dennda> restarted?
[22:28:35] <leche> well, i could create that .../www/zine directory... but thats not the sense of it.,
[22:28:39] <leche> jahaaa....
[22:28:41] <leche> ;-)
[22:29:09] <dennda> no indeed
[22:29:13] <dennda> there's something still wrong
[22:29:17] <dennda> like it ignores that wsgi thing
[22:29:23] <leche> ok, wait
[22:29:31] <dennda> check what happens if you put it to the very beginning of the file :-)
[22:29:40] <leche> another error in log now
[22:29:52] <leche> [Fri Sep 05 22:29:00 2008] [error] [client 92.73.92.209] Target WSGI script not found or unable to stat: /home/milk/zine_instances/zine.
[22:29:56] <dennda> ah
[22:29:58] <leche> wsgi
[22:30:02] <dennda> permissions?
[22:30:07] <leche> yeah, guess so
[22:30:19] <dennda> what are the permissions?
[22:30:33] <leche> -rw-r--r--
[22:30:37] <dennda> owner?
[22:30:42] <leche> me
[22:30:58] <dennda> is that the name of a user? :-)
[22:31:02] <leche> milk
[22:31:12] <dennda> hm
[22:31:23] <leche> does it need +x?
[22:31:28] <dennda> perhaps that directory is not known to apache
[22:31:30] <dennda> try this:
[22:31:32] <dennda> no it doesn't
[22:32:52] <dennda> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/84487/
[22:32:59] <dennda> put that before the wsgiscriptalias
[22:33:07] <dennda> dunno if it's going to help though
[22:33:09] <dennda> works here without
[22:33:20] <dennda> maybe that is due to your kolab thing
[22:35:09] <leche> nope
[22:35:22] <dennda> hm maybe ask #apache on this
[22:35:30] <dennda> that's something where they can probably help
[22:35:37] <dennda> except tux21b has another idea :-)
[22:37:45] <tux21b> no, not really :/
[22:39:00] <leche> maybe cause its out of server root?
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[22:45:58] <tux21b> or maybe because of mod_wsgi or due to a previous error...
[22:46:39] <tux21b> but i really don't know. but apollo13 is back now ;)
[22:46:45] <apollo13> hu?
[22:46:48] <leche> hooray
[22:49:10] <tux21b> le​che wanted help from you (apache.conf related) before and i've tried to substitute
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[22:50:29] <leche> well, and i think im nearly done :-)
[22:50:41] <leche> it feels like it works soon
[22:51:46] <leche> the actual error is: [Fri Sep 05 22:29:00 2008] [error] [client 92.73.92.209] Target WSGI script not found or unable to stat: /home/milk/zine_instances/zine.
[22:51:55] <leche> *.wsgi
[22:53:33] <tux21b> leche, does the file exists and can the user running apache access it? (if you use daemon mode you can add user=milk to the dameonprocessgroup line)
[22:53:59] <leche> tux21b: daemon mode does not work yet, i commented out the rest
[22:54:05] <tux21b> s/demonprocessgroup/WSGIDaemonProcess/
[22:54:21] <tux21b> ok, than the file must be accessible for the user running apache
[22:54:34] <leche> oh wait
[22:55:24] <leche> got the error -.-
[22:55:30] <dennda> what is it?
[22:55:34] * dennda gets a gun
[22:55:38] <leche> no comment ^^
[22:55:43] <dennda> TELL US!
[22:55:45] <dennda> :-)
[22:55:51] <TheSheep> we care!
[22:55:54] <leche> i cant, if i do, i have to kill you
[22:56:06] <dennda> don't worry, we'll kill you first
[22:56:15] <leche> actually, it was still the fcgi file *run*
[22:56:16] <TheSheep> and eat your kidneys
[22:56:23] <dennda> !
[22:56:27] <dennda> jesus
[22:56:47] <dennda> leche: you need the wsgi file
[22:56:50] <dennda> there's a difference
[22:56:58] <leche> i know -.-
[22:57:09] <dennda> it's in the servers/ folder of your zine checkout. you'll need to adjust it the way I showed you yesterday
[22:58:59] <leche> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/84489/
[22:59:11] <leche> sry, wrong paste
[23:00:24] <leche> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/84490/
[23:00:29] <leche> this is the correct one
[23:01:05] <dennda> ok perfect
[23:01:20] <dennda> what is the ZINE_LIB variables value?
[23:02:05] <leche> in the python console?