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26. 09 2008

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[00:09:44] <ph> is there an restructured text plugin for eclipse?
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[00:16:28] <ronny> hmm, pida could use such a thing
[00:22:54] <Kaelten> I think paste.pocoo is having issues
[00:23:05] <Kaelten> on a side note http://pastie.org/private/6vr0hlsv7v4pqhw8agfbq is what I settled on
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[07:46:31] <CIA-49> Zine: mitsuhiko default * 501:1ddb54d68f9b /zine/ (18 files in 8 dirs): Again some small changes in the form system and added a logging interface.
[07:46:32] <CIA-49> Zine: mitsuhiko default * 502:4014e1bcbcec /zine/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Moved widgets into "widgets.NAME" and got rid of last widget admin leftovers.
[07:46:32] <CIA-49> Zine: mitsuhiko default * 503:6f83f2649b07 /zine/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Some small cleanups (mostly imports)
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[13:33:24] <prencher> mitsuhiko - ping
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[14:01:35] <aa_> oh my god I really need to turn ff3's caching
[14:01:51] <aa_> is there any way you can just turn it off for localhost or something like that?
[14:03:31] <prencher> sounds like your testing env ought to be setting no-cache and isn't
[14:05:05] <prencher> aa_ - you might be able to.. theres a way to do configs that take effect based on url
[14:05:28] <prencher> not sure you can change settings like that inside though.. but i know it can be used to override css and such, without using plugins
[14:18:08] <aa_> prencher: no-cache sounds great!
[14:19:39] <prencher> yelling randomly!
[14:21:37] <aa_> shouldn't werkzeug's run_simple do that anyway
[14:21:58] <prencher> i don't see why it would
[14:23:52] <aa_> yeah, fair enough
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[14:58:38] <prencher> aa_ - you could add it to DebuggedApplication as an option
[14:58:55] <aa_> prencher: yes, that could be nice
[14:59:06] <aa_> prencher: or you could add it too, since you are nice
[14:59:49] <prencher> i've already made one werkzeug patch today, quota exceeded
[15:00:27] <aa_> fair enough
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[15:51:34] * asmodai waves at Kaelten
[15:51:44] <Kaelten> heya asmo
[15:51:53] <prencher> emo asmo, didn't say hello
[15:52:03] <asmodai> That curse client updater has had some problems lately it seems
[15:52:05] <asmodai> Heya prencher
[15:52:08] <asmodai> nah, just got home
[15:52:30] <asmodai> misread the timestamp on Kaelten's entry actually :)
[15:52:52] <Kaelten> lol
[15:53:01] <Kaelten> ya we think it sould be better going forward
[15:53:11] <Kaelten> but yes, the current one has had a few issues.
[15:53:16] <Kaelten> er previous
[15:54:36] <prencher> is it going to be super awesome now that you're super awesome .net?
[15:54:55] <Kaelten> hrm?
[15:55:04] <Kaelten> the client is actually c++ and based on wx
[16:00:16] <asmodai> must not kill parents
[16:01:03] <asmodai> their ISP has both internet and voip over adsl
[16:01:25] <asmodai> apparently said $HELPDESK_PERSON told my mother to reset the modem (which is a factory reset AFIACT)
[16:01:28] <asmodai> AFAICT
[16:01:35] <asmodai> and so I could go there today to fix up the shit
[16:01:43] <asmodai> I got the wireless, voip and all that working again
[16:01:54] <asmodai> but all websites only resolved/came back 25% of the time
[16:02:23] <asmodai> which, given the fact that apparently have voip issues at $ISP tells me that they have more than just voip issues
[16:02:40] <asmodai> so mom just called me after I left that stuff did not work and that I should come back tomorrow
[16:03:00] <asmodai> and when you try to explain the problem lies with $ISP, for the umpth time, they get pissed at you for not helping
[16:03:03] <asmodai> GAH
[16:03:24] <mq> mitsuhiko: sorry, school (and a few other things) are eating almost all of my time now, I guess I won't have any time for zine soon :/
[16:07:16] <asmodai> *waves bye bye to Jack Thompson*
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[16:16:09] <prencher> Kaelten - i meant since the serverside is asp.net now
[16:17:21] <Kaelten> oh well the best thing compared to the current setup is that the client's traffic is not on the same servers as the website
[16:19:03] <prencher> so did the beta explode? since it's not live yet
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[16:21:48] <asmodai> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c93_1222391289
[16:21:49] <asmodai> wth
[16:22:14] <prencher> the !WARNING! scares me!
[16:22:32] <asmodai> it is quite bizarre
[16:22:40] <asmodai> not very graphic, but it involves an accident
[16:23:16] <aa_> anyone here used/using extjs ?
[16:23:40] <aa_> I am finding it rather nice
[16:23:51] <aa_> it's not really free though
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[17:14:21] <Kaelten> you can pickle a function can you
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[17:48:38] <CIA-49> Zine: mitsuhiko default * 504:50493cc3f90a /zine/ (forms.py utils/forms.py): fixed a small limitation in forms that caused errors to not order properly
[17:53:22] <asmodai> Not sure Kaelten
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[18:02:38] <prencher> mitsuhiko - query
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[18:11:44] <mitsuhiko> prencher: sec
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[19:51:49] <plaes> ok guys, been working on Werkzeug docs a bit...
[19:51:51] <plaes> http://plaes.org/files/2008-Q3/werkzeug-docs/
[19:51:55] <plaes> this is WIP
[19:52:28] <plaes> I've been goind through the docs and expanding the old ones..
[19:58:42] <plaes> Should I create a separate section for Tutorial or does it fit under "Starting with Werkzeug" ?
[20:00:19] <plaes> anyway.. off for drinks :)
[20:26:26] <apollo13> plaes: great :)
[20:26:44] <apollo13> do you think you could port the old werkzeug docs to sphinx too?
[20:27:56] <plaes> well, I'm actually taking them one by one..
[20:28:18] <plaes> then I read through them and expand if necessary...
[20:28:42] <apollo13> That's just fine :) Don't forget to upload a patch
[20:32:15] <plaes> I should figure out how to properly work with hg :P
[20:32:29] <apollo13> Oh, it's not that hard :)
[20:32:53] <plaes> it is.. after getting used to git :(
[20:32:59] <apollo13> hehe
[20:34:18] <apollo13> plaes: btw talk about it with mitsuhiko as soon as he comes online
[20:34:39] <apollo13> I guess he'll be back tomorrow
[20:50:21] <ivan> why would anyone use old werkzeug
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[22:57:07] <asmodai> Kaelten: heh
[22:57:14] <asmodai> Updater.exe
[22:57:24] <asmodai> Windows cannot find 'Updater.exe'.
[22:57:39] <asmodai> I'd say your auto-update @ curse is not that great yet *grin*
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[22:57:53] <asmodai> although it worked until 2.0.0.9 or so without issues
[22:58:11] <Kaelten> asmodai: there is a version or two thats brok
[22:58:12] <Kaelten> e
[22:58:17] <Kaelten> but its better in the latest versions
[22:58:24] <asmodai> this is 2.0.0.12
[22:58:25] <Kaelten> on the side note. NewCurse just went live
[22:58:35] <asmodai> when I restart the client it will then update though
[22:58:47] <asmodai> just not when it is running and detects an update X time down the line
[22:58:53] <Kaelten> hrm
[22:58:59] <Kaelten> well we have .13 out now I think
[22:59:40] <asmodai> yeah. it just updated after I restarted after the failed update.
[22:59:42] <asmodai> How's that? :)
[22:59:55] <Kaelten> don't know I'll poke kolie
[23:03:32] <asmodai> I am posting on the forum too
[23:05:21] <asmodai> http://www.curse.com/forums/p/51863/278003.aspx
[23:10:41] <Kaelten> ya the forum is even usable now huh?
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[23:11:12] <Kaelten> asmodai meet Kolie
[23:11:16] <Kaelten> Kolie meet asmo
[23:11:21] <Kolie> hi.
[23:11:26] <Kaelten> asmodai bitch at Kolie about the client
[23:11:28] <Kolie> I break people computers..
[23:11:28] <Kaelten> :)
[23:11:29] <asmodai> Hey Kolie :)
[23:11:30] <asmodai> hahaha
[23:11:34] <Kolie> err yea I write the client.
[23:11:37] <asmodai> Well, I just posted
[23:11:39] <asmodai> http://www.curse.com/forums/p/51863/278003.aspx
[23:11:44] <asmodai> not sure if Kaelten showed it
[23:11:58] <Kolie> What version of the client is it?
[23:12:37] <Kolie> I see. Can you download and run http://mediabeta.curse.com/CurseClient/CurseSetup-2.0.0.13.exe
[23:13:30] <asmodai> now it is 2.0.0.13
[23:13:36] <Kolie> Ok can you close it down please?
[23:13:40] <asmodai> sure moment
[23:13:45] <asmodai> done
[23:13:50] <Kolie> You good with the command line?
[23:13:52] <asmodai> sure
[23:14:00] <asmodai> ok, cmd open
[23:14:04] <Kolie> run cmd.exe go to c:\program files (maybe x86)\curse
[23:14:14] <Kolie> type "CurseClient.exe -updatetest"
[23:14:31] <Kolie> No quotes, let me know if the error repeats itself.
[23:15:11] <asmodai> updating now
[23:15:30] <asmodai> it seems to only happen when it is running in the background/tasktray and detects an update
[23:15:41] <asmodai> and then wants to update
[23:15:44] <Kolie> Its all the same code, did you install the previous version from an installed or just the .exe?
[23:15:56] <Kolie> installer*
[23:16:04] <asmodai> The installer
[23:16:26] <Kolie> Ok, did it run through the entire update process properly this time?
[23:16:46] <asmodai> totally
[23:17:00] <asmodai> Not different from when I restart the client by hand after it fails.
[23:17:15] <asmodai> so basically I see 2 things:
[23:17:25] <asmodai> 1) fresh start, it will update correctly
[23:17:39] <asmodai> 2) when running and it detects an update, it fails with that Updater.exe message
[23:17:51] <asmodai> And will then succeed due to 1
[23:18:21] <Kolie> Amusing. Hmm.. well the way that works is there is an OnUpdateEvent, and startup or timer, they both RaiseUpdateEvent
[23:18:32] <Kolie> which gets picked up and calls on update event. I cant see a difference between the two really.
[23:18:39] <asmodai> Odd indeed then
[23:18:46] <birkenfeld> no idea what you're talking about, but I'm sure it's not ontopic :D
[23:18:55] <asmodai> it's Program Files (x86) for me, Win x64
[23:18:58] <asmodai> birkenfeld: shhhh
[23:19:10] <asmodai> birkenfeld: Go read a book or something :)
[23:19:23] <birkenfeld> asmodai: just wanted to say, let's talk about malazan :D
[23:19:34] <birkenfeld> which is much more suited to this channel
[23:20:04] <asmodai> hahahaha
[23:20:06] <asmodai> yes!
[23:20:12] <asmodai> Did you get the RG one yet?
[23:20:43] <Kolie> asmodai: thanks for the note.
[23:21:42] <asmodai> Kolie: if you need a tester, let me know.
[23:21:52] <asmodai> I know some Windows programming/debugging too :)
[23:22:11] <asmodai> This box got a lot of tools installed on it, so I can track more if need be
[23:22:31] <birkenfeld> asmodai: i have it and am 100 pages into it
[23:22:58] <birkenfeld> I think Tehol is my favorite character
[23:23:16] <asmodai> yeah, I'm like 100 pages in
[23:24:17] <asmodai> Bugg is cool too :D
[23:24:34] <asmodai> Surprised we saw Kilmandaros
[23:24:57] <birkenfeld> why? it's not like she's shy
[23:26:17] <asmodai> hahahaha
[23:29:37] <asmodai> Kolie: added the info the post too
[23:30:55] <Kolie> ok
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[23:49:19] <asmodai> birkenfeld: but promises to be an interesting book
[23:49:27] <birkenfeld> certainly
[23:49:42] <birkenfeld> what with Karsa and Rhulad
[23:49:58] <birkenfeld> also, I wonder if it was really Binadas whom he killed on Silanda
[23:51:15] <asmodai> oh
[23:51:22] <asmodai> Hadn't even made that connection
[23:51:44] <birkenfeld> there was this scene with Tomad recognizing the ship
[23:52:00] <birkenfeld> and the Atri-Preda telling Icarium(?) that he has now lost two sons at once
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[23:58:34] <asmodai> Yeah
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