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27. 09 2008

[00:00:33] <asmodai> But damn, do you need notes :D
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[00:25:30] <prencher> cmon mitsuhiko, lazy bassa
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[00:27:54] <apollo13> prencher: context?
[00:28:16] <prencher> oh just in general, you know
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[00:30:13] <prencher> hey alowry, thanks for the patches there
[00:30:27] <alowry> prencher: you're welcome.
[00:30:44] <alowry> Still getting started using it, so perhaps there will be more later.
[00:30:58] <prencher> one comment - if you instead make the patch as a hg commit and then do hg tip -p > foo.diff, it'll include the hg metadata (author, commit message et al)
[00:31:23] <alowry> will do
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[10:32:44] <asmodai> birkenfeld: Looks like Chapter Three will detail the Shorning of Trull.
[10:34:35] * birkenfeld looks forward
[10:36:18] <asmodai> It at least starts with a flashback between Trull and Rhulad
[10:36:24] <asmodai> so I am guessing the Shorning will then be explained
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[12:07:04] <aa_> yeah if you want heavy forms or tables etc: extjs
[12:35:54] <CIA-49> Zine: mitsuhiko default * 505:11d385abb1ee /zine/ (10 files in 4 dirs): Switch from database managers to custom query objects. This changeset requires the latest sqlalchemy 0.5 subversion checkout for rc2 or higher.
[12:42:55] <aa_> mitsuhiko: excellent
[12:43:12] <aa_> I wonder if zine is mitsuhiko's playground sometimes :)
[12:59:14] <EnTeQuAk> I think, it is ;)
[13:11:09] <aa_> I stick with an ultra old version
[13:11:28] <aa_> EnTeQuAk: I still have pages outside the textpress core :)
[13:11:49] <aa_> the app works very nicely, just a few small bugs
[13:12:11] <mitsuhiko> EnTeQuAk: i have a big lodgeit update for you
[13:15:04] <EnTeQuAk> well, just push it
[13:15:41] <EnTeQuAk> or send me a bundle :)
[13:15:44] <EnTeQuAk> *afk now*
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[15:17:05] <ronny> mitsuhiko: zine broke - http://ronny.uberhost.de/
[15:20:47] <mitsuhiko> ronny: surprise
[15:21:07] <mitsuhiko> you upgraded to a version that was broken
[15:21:51] <ronny> mitsuhiko: i just did my usual pull -u loop on my web dirs
[15:22:09] <mitsuhiko> well. the commit messages say "don't upgrade. no supported upgrade path"
[15:22:34] <ronny> duh, whe world belongs to those who read
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[15:33:49] <ronny> mitsuhiko: what rev should i use?
[15:53:50] <ronny> mitsuhiko: can i update to current using the commit messages trying to figrue what to do?
[15:58:20] <mitsuhiko> ronny: i have no idea how to upgrade from older versions
[15:58:25] <mitsuhiko> and i will change the database schema another time
[15:58:29] <mitsuhiko> so don't do it
[15:58:55] <mitsuhiko> i have old textpress installations myself and i will try to find a way to ugrade them to zine 0.1
[16:00:42] <ronny> ok, so i'll have to freze to r498 ?
[16:01:10] <ronny> does zine xml export/import work ?
[16:03:27] * dennda has the same problem
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[17:06:31] <empty> mitsuhiko: is your forms stuff done?
[17:06:51] <mitsuhiko> empty: yes. but it's currently tightly integrated into zine :)
[17:06:59] <empty> :(
[17:07:14] <mitsuhiko> well, tightly is the i18n system i think
[17:07:14] <empty> Are you planning to abstract it?
[17:07:32] <mitsuhiko> http://www.bitbucket.org/mitsuhiko/zine-main/src/tip/zine/utils/forms.py
[17:08:06] <mitsuhiko> empty: well, i don't really have an idea how to do i18n in an abstract way
[17:08:19] <empty> ah
[17:12:34] <empty> mitsuhiko: so the i18n stuff is only revelant for the error text
[17:12:36] <empty> ?
[17:16:27] <mitsuhiko> yes
[17:19:21] <empty> well it looks cool, but I guess I better wait on it.
[17:25:30] <mitsuhiko> empty: i thought about writing a script that automatically creates an unbundled version of the form library
[17:25:34] <mitsuhiko> but i haven't seriously tried it yet
[17:42:28] <EnTeQuAk> maddiin, I just updated DMLT again, you may update you sources, I fixed some doc-issues and other things. And I'm planning to release the advanced-example (moinmoin-inherited syntax) next week ;)
[17:50:25] <maddiin> EnTeQuAk: great, thanks
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[18:01:02] <empty> mitsuhiko: so why didn't you use wtforms?
[18:01:44] <mitsuhiko> empty: implementation and usage is very different
[18:02:05] <empty> mitsuhiko: oh, I'm not really familiar with wtforms, just curious
[18:02:27] <mitsuhiko> it's based on the idea that everything is a validator
[18:03:25] <empty> ah, yeah.
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[19:32:46] <prencher> empty - the main reason is NIH, but don't tell him that ;)
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[21:33:25] <prencher> mitsuhiko - ping
[21:33:32] <mitsuhiko> prencher: pong
[21:34:33] <prencher> just so we're on the same system of time here, how many days is "a little later"? ;)
[21:39:52] <mitsuhiko> too many currently :-/
[22:50:56] * asmodai pings both mitsuhiko and prencher
[22:51:19] <prencher> asmohai
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[23:03:34] <asmodai> :D
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[23:15:59] <asmodai> heya Kaelten
[23:16:02] <asmodai> Lake of Tears++
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