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28. 09 2008

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[01:58:26] <maze> what is a good starting point for learning about sessions/authentication using werkzeug?
[02:07:46] <aa_> zine source code?
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[04:09:01] <Kaelten> asmodai: ?
[04:14:52] <prencher> don't even try to understand Kaelten
[04:15:08] <Kaelten> prencher: protect me?
[04:36:55] <ronny> oh great
[04:37:12] <ronny> latest zine before the big change cant post blog posts
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[08:37:31] <prencher> lo' gramps
[08:37:36] <prencher> er, grumpy_ ;)
[08:40:06] <grumpy_> prencher: I am not that old yet. :-)
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[08:48:59] <grumpy_> prencher: anything wrong with this nginx config http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/browse_thread/thread/9a1c87df6e18ae
[08:49:16] <grumpy_> prencher: my response to person in http://groups.google.com/group/modwsgi/browse_frm/thread/e03b6d4411441c27?hl=en
[08:55:08] <prencher> grumpy_ - not off-hand, though he might want to remove all the settings below set_header while he's debugging, i dont know if they might be having an effect on his test
[08:56:05] <prencher> you basically only need the first 5 lines to do the actual proxying, i've not needed to do any of the other stuff he's doing there
[08:57:12] <prencher> the apache config also looks fine
[08:59:00] <prencher> i'd have to dig out my old nginx config files to be sure.. which sadly are stashed away in a tar.gz snapshot of our old server presently
[08:59:08] <grumpy_> prencher: Thanks, have asked person to try the minimal required then. They haven't replied though to earlier suggestions, so likely they found problem and will never come back.
[08:59:50] <grumpy_> prencher: Configuration will also save me from reading documentation. I may finally try and get nginx working on my system. :-)
[09:00:09] <prencher> grumpy_ - but wait a second.. it looks like he's not using daemon mode
[09:00:23] <prencher> and he's using mpm worker.. that means he's running wsgi in embedded with threads right?
[09:00:34] <prencher> or what does wsgi do when you run as mpm worker and embedded - one per worker thread?
[09:01:19] <grumpy_> prencher: Worker MPM and embedded is fine, however many threads are available as Apache creates for its own request handling.
[09:03:10] <prencher> grumpy_ - right, but does that make the wsgi handler threaded, like when you use daemon mode with threads=X?
[09:03:24] <prencher> because django and threads really don't mix well, though it shouldn't cause any timeouts
[09:03:26] <prencher> just a thought
[09:04:19] <grumpy_> prencher: Yes. Django 1.0 is okay for threaded for 99% of people who use it. Problems only come up if someone explicitly creates template instances at global context and reuses them.
[09:06:09] <prencher> fair enough, not used django in a while
[09:11:26] <grumpy_> prencher: I'd like to think they addressed threading issues in time for Django 1.0 because I used to complain so much that there was no clear statement about whether Django was thread safety.
[09:12:24] <prencher> grumpy_ - I certainly hope so
[09:12:52] <prencher> even php is threadsafe at it's core.. it's be embarassing if django wasn't, considering when it was 'invented'
[09:13:14] <prencher> understable it wasn't very nice initially, but with 1.0 out the door one would hope it's been addressed, you are right
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[10:15:19] <rafael> mitsuhiko: ping
[10:44:24] <asmodai> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/our-position-on-californias-no-on-8.html
[10:54:38] <asmodai> http://bulletproofbox.com/rock-solid-form-validation-with-xhtml-css-and-jquery/
[11:01:41] <ronny> looks not that good
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[13:09:56] <tega2020> Hi there I am having some trouble with installing Pocoo - the BBS on python 2.5.
[13:10:19] <tega2020> Here is the error I get
[13:10:28] <tega2020> from jinja.lib import stdlib
[13:10:34] <tega2020> ImportError: No module named lib
[13:10:43] <tega2020> anyone know why this is so?
[13:11:20] <tega2020> do I require an earlier version of Jinja than Jinja-1.2 to use Pocoo-0.1.5?
[13:11:22] <prencher> pocoo the forum has been dead for years
[13:11:33] <tega2020> K
[13:11:39] <tega2020> thanks
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[14:32:59] <grumpy_> mitsuhiko: ping
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[18:02:00] <stargaming> hey folks. where would I start if I wanted to implement tumblelog features (à la chyrp) in Zine?
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[18:10:49] <delroth> I'm writing a Pygments lexer for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Maker_Language I'll send the patch this evening
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[19:16:40] <asmodai> Silly folk!
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